Bela is Phar Lap Reborn.

Posted by AikenDrum on 05.07.01 07:48

There are many things that suggest that TWoT is set on our Earth, either far in the future or past. We all know that the heroes are reborn every age. I don't know much about horses, but most people would agree that Phar Lap is the hero horse type animal of our age, so Bela would most likely be Phar Lap reborn, or vice versa.

Pento McGreno says: Brilliant connection.

No, really.

Bela is obviously Phar Lap.

Now we can sit back and wonder if anyone outside of Australia will understand this.


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Nobody outside of Australia is going to understand this...

Posted by Your.Master on 05.07.01 08:47
Including me. Tell me tell me tell me tell me.

(Personally, I'd go for Bucephalus is Bela reborn, but...)


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Not having much to do with the theory...

Posted by lironj on 05.07.01 09:50
Can anyone tell me what's going on at DragonSworn? Is the site dead?

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You don't have to sit for long...

Posted by Vanin on 05.07.01 09:59
I didn't get this.

As for the Dragonsworn li-whatever, everything is OK but this should rather be posted on the MB.

Phar Lap?

Posted by Nanji the Seventh on 05.07.01 11:47
????

Austrailia

Posted by kidblondeel on 05.07.01 12:28
Why couldn't Phar Lap be Canadian?

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no idea what Phar Lap is, so...

Posted by Jayhawk on 05.07.01 13:37
enlighten me


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Posted by MrFarstrider on 05.07.01 13:43
at least ur the 500th theory posted
u got one thing going for u


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WHO THE HELL IS PHARLAP!!!???

Posted by The Blacksmith Reborn on 06.07.01 00:13
read title...


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Phar Lap

Posted by sabljak on 06.07.01 00:36
I'm tempted to let you all stew, BUT...

Phar Lap was a very famous race horse in Australia a few decades ago. He died in suspicious circumstances - think JFK with horses, and without the guns...

Think about it - if the Forsaken want to tear the hearts out of most of the major characters, they have only to strike at their leader - BELA.


Not to mention

Posted by thefink on 06.07.01 00:46
They still have his heart pickled, in a museum somewhere...(anybody know where? I can't remember).


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Not Phar Lap

Posted by Viking on 06.07.01 01:53
If Bela is a reinkarnation of anything, I think that Sleipner would fit better. You know the eight-feet horse of Odin.

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out of hand (or hoof)??

Posted by dork boson on 06.07.01 03:49
OK isn't this getting a little out of hand? Although I'm enlightened to learn of Phar Lap, come on.
This isn't as bad as Perrin=Verin though.

Absolutely

Posted by Bayside on 06.07.01 04:24
....how could I have missed it!

I don't know about Phar Laps heart, but his body is in the museum of Victoria, in Melbourne.

Ignorant Americans

Posted by Madrox Stalin on 06.07.01 22:02
ahahahhaa

Phar Lap, the marvel and master of horse racing...
And nobody but us aussies know about him, well i think thats hilarious.
I am a Melbournite and i knew the second that the question was asked if anyone outside AUS would know who Phar Lap was that we would get some dumb-founded american folk..

ahh well we cant blame them, ignorance is in thier blood, like excessive drinking is in ours...

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Phar Lap's heart

Posted by Myrelle Green on 07.07.01 02:42
His heart was in the national museum in Canberra. There is now a theory that this heart is not really Phar Lap's at all, but is an imposter.

PHAR LAP WAS A KIWI!!!!!!!

Posted by Ruriha Sedai on 07.07.01 05:14
Everyone seems to have missed a very important point. Phar Lap was a KIWI horse. A NEW ZEALAND horse. His skeleton is in Te Papa Tongawera, our national museum. He is a KIWI horse, just like Sunline and Zabeel. NOT an Aussie horse. He has been claimed by Aussies for years, like many other Kiwi things, but he belongs to us. THEY are all just jealous. So there.
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What is with this??

Posted by Grak on 07.07.01 21:15
What is with all the theories and junk on Bela? It's a HORSE! It appears in the first and second books, then never comes back!!! Forget about the horse!


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Actually...

Posted by BalefireBoy on 08.07.01 03:40
Bela's in books 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and I forget if she's in the rest. The only thing I don't understand is how can Bela be this "legendary" Phar Fig Newton if it's said she is, in fact, the Creator!?

Oh yeah, and Perrin does equal Verin. I can't believe people are just realizing this. I thought it was a known fact.

Well Bela is at least alive in aCoS

Posted by Birdhead on 09.07.01 03:30
Egwene mentions that she would rather be riding Bela than Dai'Shar (Glory) in A Morning of Victory.

And she is SO Phar Lap! Brilliant! *sighs* at last, proof us Kiwis will be important in the 3rd age. *Smiles beatifically*
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Phar Lap Australian

Posted by Coggo on 17.07.01 09:43
Phar Lap lived and raced in Australia. He was Australian.

oh, come on....

Posted by klay on 19.07.01 05:35
but yeah, he was a kiwi horse. but does it really matter, the 2 countries argue over all the important stuff, like pavlova, russel crowe, and footrot flats. and jay legaia(...still not too sure there...)

but yeah, any kiwis want to talk wot? i'm thinking a dfs in the summer sounds good....

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Re: story of Phar Lap

Posted by mazza3 on 18.09.01 12:35
Hey, some Americans know about Phar Lap as well (22 y-o Females at that). Derby winner, but I don't think he won the Triple Crown. My personal favie faves are Swale (Derby, 1985?) and Spectacular Bid (would've been three Triple Crown Winners in a row, but hey, more important things happened that year 1979, ie, I was born. hahaahahaaa) Anyway, love the theory. But I might think that Seabiscuit is more appropriate, as he was a bit of a runt as well.

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Posted by kiln sedai on 27.10.01 05:26
so am i the second person from america who didn't need to be told about phar lap? aren't we the special ones. but i think i like the seabiscuit thing better. but it's all one and the same and my horse is stepper reborn and that's almost as good.
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ITS A HORSE

Posted by Maldais on 11.11.01 19:01
First of all VIKING Oden's horse has 6 legs not 8 dumbass. And another thing you are all talking about some horse that was either a kiwi horse or an australian horse that was reborn as bela? Bela is a little shaggy horse and is in a BOOK.


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Posted by vagabondbard on 19.11.01 07:47
I know about Phar Lap cause I saw the movie that came out in America when I was a kid.

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aussies vs kiwis

Posted by bad karma on 04.03.02 17:24
who has got the bledislow?

I don't see how that works

Posted by Peter on 13.03.02 17:09
How can a horse's body be in one museum while it's skeleton is in another?

BELA IS A HORSE!!!!!!!

Posted by Crystina Sedai on 07.05.02 10:50
geez, I'm with Grak, bela is just a horse, yes, she is a chararcter in a book but that does not automatically mean that she is someone reborn, there are no conspiracy theories on bela (at least there shoudn't be) she is just a shaggy mare in a BOOK.



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Phar Lap from New Zealand

Posted by Herid on 24.06.02 04:46
Phar Laps skeleton is in a New Zealand muesem (the one metioned above), and his skin is in an aussie one... Aussies just love to claim all things from New Zealand as their own... But I digress...




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Who do Phar Lap be?!

Posted by Ruathain on 27.06.02 04:45
Who the f*** is Phar Lap. If Bela is a horse re-incarnated then surely its Shergar!!!!!


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Posted by Catoo on 28.07.02 20:37
I wnot even pretend to understand

Well it's obvious...

Posted by Inane on 25.09.02 08:38
Good theory, except Bela gets depicted as a plodder, not a charger. Who knows, maybe both horses have big hearts...

How come Rand's house has gone off with Egwene?

Posted by Ylara on 21.10.02 07:36
I'm with Ruathain shes definately Shergar.

Does anyone remember that she's Rands horse not Egwene's, who seems to have forgotten this and appropriated her.

see...americans do too know about phar lap...

Posted by fatbrando300 on 15.12.02 04:55
Phar Lap was an australian race horse, famous for the come-from-behind-win. His owner thought he would make him rich if brought over to the americas to race against the super-horses, despite running the opposite way around the track. Unfortunately, he was poisoned during his tour here, obviously thought of as a threat by American thoroughbred owners (shame on them!) It was a great movie, and i cried at the end of it. It was so sad how he died, but he was a great horse...i'd have to say even better than bela. BTW, Breyer collectibles actually has made models of phar lap, right down to the distinctive crescent moon marking on his forehead