I believe that Lews Therin wasn't realy a man but a dragon. I play many RPGs and dragons are almost always magical. and the equivalent of magic being the True Source. Also does no one remember that Moghedien when she was in Salidar hid her ability to channel? Maybe a lost talent is hiding actual channeling. So Lews Therin could then mask himself as a man and being one of the most powerful of channelers made a name for himself in a high standing position. Now look at his name the Dragon. Maybe someone found out he was a dragon and he decided to call himself a dragon. So if he is the Dragon and Rand is the Dragon Reborn maybe rather than Rand being a real dragon he is the human embodiment of a dragon or the Dragon's soul. Then i believe what will give him and advantage in the Last Battle is he will discover how to become a dragon and call forth legions of dragons. 
Raserei says: Um...no.
One, you base claim on the fact you play RPG's. How is that evidence?
Two, Moghy's "ability" to mask her channeling is something she teaches Nyn and co. in Salidar. This is a thing with the power, the ability to invert their weaves, and to cover their radiant glow when they channel. Mesaana also does this in the White Tower.
Again, I reiterate. No.
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Although I think your theory is not applicable to the series/story (I'm not even sure how serious you were
), I have often wondered where LTT's title as The Dragon came from. It's in the books I believe, but I cannot recall. Can someone refresh my memory?
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
In the words of Dr. Evil, "Riiiiiiiiiiiiight"
AOBtD
It`s frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.
We get the message, the site get's a lot of crap theories. Now that we fully understand said message, can you stop posting them please?
Oh and I believe the explanation for the name Dragon is that the people needed a name for the creature on LTT's banner in the AoL and called it Dragon. Where the symbol or name came from is unknown, but I would guess their were either tales of dragons in those times or in some past age dragons actually did exist (possibly as a different sort of Shadowspawn) and a vague memory entered people's concious when they saw the symbol. Possibly.
Thanks.
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
a theory based on RPG i hate the thing sure i myself play alot of rpg. and llt maybe are a dragon and maybe pigs did fly...
What are you smoking, and where can I get some?
Ok, what you said about basing (is that a word?) your theory on RPG... I wouldn't take that as hard evidence. I'm sure the goal of every fantasy writer, or any writer for that matter, is to make it as different as possible from other books in that field (or RPG's in that field!) and still make it interesting. If Robert Jordan based his books on RPG's, that would just break my heart.
But I do believe your theory can be a possiblity. I never really paid attention to what you said about Moghedien, but I was thinking about Lews Therin actually being a Dragon. If Dragons existed before or during the Age of Legends, how come nobody else could acquire the title "Dragon"? How did Lews Therin Telaboy acquire that title in the first place? Maybe he did something with a Dragon (like having a Dragon's soul trapped in him or something, I don't know), or maybe he IS a Dragon. You call a person the "Lord Dragon", and he has a Dragon on his banner, and on his clothes, and even permanently tattooed on his arms, which by the way, didn't come from your normal Tattoo parlour, but a bunch of old memories and glass columns. Maybe RJ is only shoving straight in our face the fact that Rand al'thor is a Dragon, but we just can't see it. I know what I said won't make much sense, but I'm standing with... Goddamn! I just thought about that RPG thing I wrote at the beginning, and now it's ruined my entire theory completely!
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This theory was just so sad I had to say something.(I'm still mentally cringing)
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I was going to bash this, but it seems others have beaten me to it... oh well.
alright one this theory was barely hald serious. and the comment i made about RPG's is that if RJ uses mythology why can't he use some other things like vague conscepts from other book series and ideas of creatures. but i state once again the theory wasn't even HALD SERIOUS ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!
I am Dalindor! Monk of many large evil thing butt woopings!!!!
Recall that the Dracula Mythos is based on Vladimir Tepes. He was also known as Vlad The Impaler and the Dragon. The Romanian word for Dragon IIRC sound roughly like Drakuelya, or Dracula.
So if he was called the Dragon then I suppose that he was also a dragon in human form? Can we add a category for crap theories? If someone gets enough crap votes (that should not be seen as the same thing as disagreement votes) then they get put in the crap theories section.
Sooner or later it all connects back to itself.
So anybody notice how smart some of these people think they are when they post theories like:
"Demandred is NOT Taim!!!! I have proof"
or
"Moridin is probably Ishmael reborn!"
or
"I think Rand is Lews Therin reborn"
ok the last one is a bit extreme but still, we have people who have probably skimmed the books decide to post their brilliant analysis of what RJ is thinking. The theory post isn't nearly as stimulating as it once was.
We get the point Raserei that idiots posts, enough already!
Torin the Chosen
You know, the one who feels most inadequate, tends to lash out the most. Who cares if some of the theories are crap. To be so elitist defeats the purpose of a site like this. It's supposed to be, for the most part fun, not an actual science. Get off your high horse.
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
It's that sort of attitude that leads to so many crap communities on the internet. The really high quality sites are those that don't stand for any crap being posted on them and they are few and far between. Wotmania is one of those places and I'd like it to stay that way.
Besides, it's not just that they are crap theories. It's also that far better theories aren't being put up. I would think that most people are like me and can accept that their theory hasn't been put up no matter how good you personally thought it was, unless of course theories that are clearly inferior (to everyone) do get shown. Then it gets annoying and you start complaining that if one theory got put up, why wasn't mine? etc. It is not a good thing.
You, "would think most people are like you..." eh?
Enough said...
And, "Shut up"? Nice. Real nice.
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
...should I be nice when you've accused others of being inadequate and elitist and told them to get down off their high horses?
I have no idea what you are getting at with your quote and "Enough said...". What's enough said? What have you said? I do think that most people are like me when it comes to not having their theories accepted. I don't see loads of people posting all over these blackboards complaining that their theories haven't been posted, do you? Yet theories are discarded all of the time, so my only assumption can be that people don't mind it.
Rather than just saying "Enough said...", why don't you actually say something and point out to me the benefit to this site if it posts crap theories. I can think of one, a demonstration of the sort of rubbish they get sent. That's fine, but they've done it now. Any others?
"It's supposed to be, for the most part fun"
How did I ever miss this? It's all about fun! Why don't we all have "fun" then!
I'll submit a theory that Rand won't die because I play a lot of computer games and using that as evidence, the main characters don't often die. Surely RJ will have taken some of his ideas from videogames.
Lord Sauvant can submit a theory that Elayne will turn out to be Rand's only love interest as he watches a lot of TV and the fact that it's often the blonde girl in that role is clearly evidence.
Yes, I understand it now. I don't know why I was so blind before. Obviously the more theories like this we have the better and more fun the site will be. let us all submit such fun theories.
You prove yourself more and more a jack ass each theory and post I read by you. You are the one who started the insulting, and I'm not the first person you have done this to. You are an elitist moron who attempts to bully everyone into thinking like you do, and when people don't see it your way you get diarrhea of the mouth (or fingers in this case) and spout off in your angry, "my gilfriend doesn't think I'm big enough" way. The only crap that streams into this site comes from your small, bile filled brain. I'm through playing this sophomoric game with you as I think you are neither worthy, nor intelligent enough for me to correspond with anymore. I suggest you do not write again and embarrass yourself further.
-mauladala
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
WHen someone says something that they think is funny but that you think is stupid, you simply don't listen to them. You certainly don't go on about how "they shouldn't be allowed to speak anymore becuase of the stupid stuff they say". That would be inhumane and a decision based solely on personal inflection. It's the same here. If he posts something you think is not funny, then don't read any more posts by him. And trying to say that sites shouldn't post stuff like that is simply egotisty and bigotry. To some people, that was funny, and if even no one else liked it, at least the author did. Since he was entertained, you shouldn't complain just becuase you didn't like it. Don't act like it should be removed just because you- and even if it was everyone else in the world besides the author-didn't like it. Like he said, get off your high horse.
No longer a user of the forbidden "P" word.
mauladala
I started the insulting? When did I start this? I don't see a problem with calling a theory crap if that's how I see it, after all, what's the blackboard for if not to right what you think about the theory? I don't attack the author personally though, unlike you have. I think we all know who is being insulting here. Rather than just insulting me, why don't you actually try adressing some of my points and arguing for your cause? Oh, but I forgot, I'm not worthy of answers anymore am I? Not that that's backing out at all. I guess that means you're not going to tell me the advantages to theories that everyone can see are wrong at a glance. Damn, I really wanted to know.
"You prove yourself more and more a jack ass each theory and post I read by you"
That's very strange, I've seen you agree with me before. Oh yes, I've written 2 theories that are posted on this site, please point out how they make me look like a jackass.
"You know, the one who feels most inadequate, tends to lash out the most."
Oh oh, now I'm no expert on this matter, but it seems clear to me who has been lashing out most.
Ashaman Nash
I agree, if someone posts something meant to be funny and I don't find it funny, I just don't say anything. However, I see no indication that this post is meant to be seen as a humourous post and clearly Raserei didn't either as it's in the Randland Science section (hmmm, time to rename), rather than the Humorous Theories section. Now afterwards, the author has come along and said it was only meant to be half serious. Now I don't know whether that means he meant it to go into the humourous theories section or a section like this, but notice that after that post I did indeed stop adressing this particular theory. I decided that I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was meant to be humourous, my posts after that have been addressing others.
As I have said before, I'm just trying to keep this a high quality site. I don't honestly see a benefit to the site or the site's community (other than us understanding what crap theories the staff get sent, which wenow know) from these being posted. If that's what being on a high horse is, the fine, I'm on a high horse and I'm glad I am. Somebody has to be.
Please remember that there are others who agree with me. You only have to look at comments on a couple of the recent theories to see this. So it's not like I'm a lone voice in the crowd here. It's completely understandable that they don't want to get involved here, I mean, I doubt I'll ever be able to write a post again without mauladala searching for anything he can insult me with and if I ever make a mistake he might immediately jump on it and blame lack of research etc, I just don't know. Luckily I don't mind that, especially as I know anyone who has read this argument will understand what's going on. I for one am quite willing to carry on the debate here (as long as points are actually addressed rather than ignored and I simply get insulted in greater capacities each time), but I'm not going to take it outside of this blackboard. If I see a good theory from mauladala, I'm gonna say it's a good theory. Hopefully those I'm arguing with can too.
You at least Ashaman Nash seem to be having a proper argument with me, so I'll try and carry on with you. I've already addressed the main part of your theory, so I think we should be clear on that now, but I don't understand your idea that even if the staff and the people who read it don't think the theory is any good at all, it should still be posted simply because the person who write it got enjoyment out of that. I mean, that's just a messageboard. What would be the point of the staff at all if that was the way things were done? Every theory would have to be put up, it might as well just be automatic. I also don't see how the person who wrote it is getting any extra pleasure from seeing it posted. Surely they'd get a whole lot less pleasure by reading our comments that completely dispel the theory than they would if it was simply rejected by the staff.
oh wow you people are sad you all need to shut the frick up and not look at the series as a thing of debate. yes i believe that people should express their opinion of subjects but my god the series is intended to be fun to read and not for people to get into huge ass debates over what people think is right about it or not and when the series is done and we find that some of the theories are right and a bunch wrong the people who were right shouldn't gloat and the theory board is supposed to be so that people can express their opinion and not get insulted over and over for and once again this is all FOR FUN!!!!!!
I am Dalindor! Monk of many large evil thing butt woopings!!!!
No easier way to put it. If you'd bother to read any of Three's posts you'll see that he's insightful and intelligent. We agree on many points (LIKE THIS LAMEASS THEORY) but we also disagree on many others. I respect him, so we can have a healthy debate. Disagreeing with somebody doesn't mean we have to come to hateful language to one another, UNLESS, some people (like Nash, Mauduala, and Shadow) cannot accept criticism or a healthy debate. Three has good ideas, and you all could learn alot from him, like we all learn from one another.
People of limited intelligence and get angry and defensive when somebody says something they don't like. Thanks for proving it.
Again this goes back to this being a very poor post, a bad choice and proves 3's point that there is no real rhyme or reason to what gets posted, good ones are discarded, and bad ones get defended by pouting children.
I have come to the conclusion, that Three needs to relax.
Though on the whole, he is right. mualala didn't write to the point, and has a tendency to be insulting.
And this 'theory', if it was a little more crap, it would be spam.
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See also Pattern of an Age; ta’maral’ailen
I don't feel I have a tendency to be insulting to anyone barring those that are flat out rude to others. (e.g. Three in a Boat) If people think that, I humbly apologize. But I will also say, try reading the posts under "Where in the World is Carmen San, oops!, Demandred?" I find it interesting that Three... was in a very similar conflict with another WoTmaniac, princeofthedawn. Subsequently, I would like to apologize to prince... and acknowledge that he was right. If you read the posts you will see the very aforementioned attitude that I, PERSONALLY, am against. Some understood my point, and some didn't. That matters little. I speak for no one, except myself. I have never insulted anyone, save Three, and my opinion about something being "elitist" is just that... an opinion. I recognize that, and have never alluded to the contrary.
-mauladala
-mauladala
"I'd just as assume kiss a Wookie!"
"I can arrange that! You could USE a good kiss."
Now come on, that other argument DEFINTELY was a misunderstanding...there's not even any doubt in that. Prince thought I'd called his theory crap when I hadn't at all, he'd simply misread.
Now, back to this argument. I'd honestly like to know where I've been openly insulting. I suppose "shut up" could be seen as insulting, if you're weak enough, but I don't think you'd get offended by that. So it must be something else. I do my very best to keep insults out of posts, they're pointless unless it's the case where it's the only thing the other person understands, which here I don't believe is the case. Making well thought out points is far more effective. Some people do use insults, that's just there way, it's not mine.
You say you speak for no one but yourself, that's fair enough. However, why you have chosen me as your soul target is a little confusing. I don't really want to bring others into this, it's hardly their choice, but I'm gonna have to. Torin the Chosen has defended me as I defended him and others earlier. Like I said, some people use insults more than others, it can't be helped and he's been far more rude to you than I have. He does of course explain why he's like this in this instance. Now I'm not after you insulting him too, of course not, I just want to know why you aren't when you say you are only insulting to people who have been to you.
Also, you say it's just your opinion when something is elitist. That's true. I only question why you seem to think only I am the one being elitist. Is it because I have gone against your post while others haven't? If that's the case it's hardly fair. Mow admittedly some of these posters don't use the words "this theory is crap" in their posts, but if you look at what they do say, you can see that is what they mean (of anyone wants to correct me on that, please do). AOBtD, mordread, TaisharManetheren, Raserei, X RL W1 A, skald, Lord Sauvant, Torin the Chosen. That's on this theory blackboard. From other recent theories, I can add more names who have this elitist attitude if you wish (try looking at Ogier or Wolf Brothers).
So my questions are, if you are insulting those who are rude to you, why not Torin (sorry if this causes you any grief Torin) and if it's the elitist attitude that is bothering you, why are you directing all the hate(?) at just me? Oh yes, and just in case you forgot, the other question was, how exactly am I being insulting?
errrr.....interesting posts here. But before I stray from the true purpose...... I don't think Rand or LLT are big scaley creatures in human form but there has to be somthing special about him. Why is he the chosen warrior of light. Why is it that he is the most powerful male channeler in each of his lifetimes (this one and the age of legends anyway). Maybe in one of his long forgoten lifetimes, or maybe even his very first, There were Dragons, and he infact was one of them. Despite the fact that it was based off of rpg's it has at least some validity. Maybe they did just come up with it just to name the creature that were on his banners. But there is nothing that says the people in that time didn't know what a dragon was. If im correct, they named HIM dragon, not his banners. They probably already knew what a dragon was, and named him after the horrible creature on his banner because of what he did to the world, or maybe because of what he did, they suspected that he was indeed a dragon. I myself seriously doubt it, but what im saying is that it's not impossible. We know next to nothing about any of the other Ages except that they were. There are little bits here and there, that Thom mentions in early books from Gleeman tales, but that's it. So who knows? RJ might just spring on us that in the first Age, the first LLT or Rand, or whatever he was called in his first lifetime, was indeed a dragon. Who's to say that he was human in all of those many ages. He could have been born an ogre in one of them. I don't believe this true lol, but if you go and tell a writer that it can't happen, it will. So all we can do is hope that In the end or before the end, RJ inlightens us on why he is truly called The Dragon/Dragon Reborn.
Might I ask one question. Why couldn't Rand have the spirit
of a dragon in him. Why couldn't a previous Dragon Reborn have
been a dragon. i know the jury is out on whether or not
they really exist, but I think that most of us would agree
that they probably do. I think that this theory has merrit,
you just have to think about it a little from a different
perspective.
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Duck R2!
Well some interesting comments here. First I'd just like to say that people should lay off this guy for having their theory posted. Whether you think its lame or not isn't the reason for it getting posted but I suspect more the fact that its different, something maybe people haven't considered before. If theories like this weren't put up for debate then what'd be the point of the theory post section?
Anyway, nuff said methinks. Back to my point.
Either Dragons in this world are just a myth or they do/did actually exist (Shara?). Either way, the Dragon would probably have a reputation for being an intelligent creature, very hard to kill and ferocious in battle. Probably similar qualities to those that Lews Therin himself possessed. Hence his nickname "The Dragon"
Jimbo
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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here."
...which is that almost 30% of people think that this theory is correct. I am truly mystified...I wonder of that's the same 30% that still think that Taim is Demandred...
Stories grow from everywhere, they’re like some hideous alien moss that can just sprout up.
--Joss Whedon
I really doubt that theory. Partly because the fact that Lews Thearin(I know its spelt wrong) was a dragon in disguise was just odd. And besides I think it would be in the history books or in children stories at that if it was true. And I know its not a really good reason but its what I believe. By the way jsut because dragons are mystical creatures that can breathe fire and are magic don't mean they were really meant that Lews Thearin was a dragon in disguise.
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of the creator
To'Raken and Raken are big flying lizard's, no?
1)well just because they are called To'Raken and Raken now, doesn't mean they were always called so.
2) If there are already to similiar species of flying lizard like creatures, then why can't there be one more (if neither of them were once called dragon) maybe a older and larger species that number one or two... or maybe even are completely extinct.
In the prologue of tEotW, Ishamael reminds LTT that, while LTT didn't accept being called the Dragon, ishy accepted and revelled in the 'Betrayer of Hope' tag. Your theory is cool, but not water-holding worthy.
Karlaan 
* Warning this post has nothing to do with this theory *
Lol wow this is fun, chaos can be fun and you guys (mashada or w/e, and 3 in a boat) have entertained me quite a bit! Haha thank you guys and im sorry I have no intelligent lecture to put in, but it seems like this post is full of them and frankly, is about to burst!
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ok i want to know why this theory was published?
If you lend someone 20 bucks and never see them again it was worth it.
penguins will come into storyline i just kno it
First I just want to say that if anything should not be posted it would have to be unconstructive arguments between people who are not even discussing the theory anymore.
At this point there are 38 responses to this theory.
14 of them were wasted on arguing.
Now that is what I consider crap.
Now back to the theory.
I myself do not agree with the theory.
But I do like how it is coming from a different angle.
It has made me start to think about some of the other theorys in different ways.
Thank you Shadowight79.
Why do cows moo?
Thats one 
All s must die
I don't mean to flame, but Oh god. That hurts. Badly. *cries into a bucket of ice-cream, at this abomination*
are we all reading the same books here????
(looks confused and scratches head obliviously)
let the speedbart ride again upon the winds of time
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but thats a little to far. plus, if he disguised himself, why would they call him dragon? and woulndt rand know, being the dragon REBORN? sorry if you explained this, i stopped reading 1/4 of the way through. i do that alot...
-Sabin
You do know that you're ot supposed to drink the water in the bong, right?
The first couple of padges I read WoT I thought this too. Cant belive someone whose read more than a chapter still belives it.
Don't say always, don't say never.
Go back to your RPG's.Because it is the only place you will find a drgon.They do not exist in randland...
Mythology is real and imagination is real dragons are not real.I think in alot of way some peaple on this site are really overthinking these thearies and some of you are just plain stupid.
This is on the other hand the best site for this type of discussion and I love WOT.F... Yeah
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